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The roman conspiracy to invent jesus

Why did the Romans persecute Christians?

10/5/2016

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One question that always comes up when I speak with people who are learning aboutCaesar’s Messiah is this: if the Romans invented Christianity why did they persecute Christians? The question reflects the success the Romans had in confusing people as to who a “Christian” was.

The term “Christian” simply means a follower of a Christ – a leader claiming to have been foreseen by the Jews’ messianic prophecies. The word Kristos is Greek for the Hebrew word Messiah. So while the Romans did indeed persecute “Christians” in the way that history recorded, these were not “Roman Christians” but Jewish zealots.

In trying to sell their new religion to the masses as an authentic version of Judaism, the Romans did more than simply called it “Christianity”. In order to conceal how Roman Christianity began, the Romans stole parts of the history of the Jewish messianic movement to use as the history for their fictitious religion. In other words, since they knew they could not simply evaporate the knowledge of a movement large enough to have fought successfully against the empire, they decided to claim some of that movement’s history as belonging to Roman Christianity.

While this may seem confusing, there is a very simple way to understand what the Romans did and why people today incorrectly believe that Rome persecuted Roman Christians – this is the true history of the characters in the Gospels called Simon and John that is revealed in Caesar’s Messiah.

The following is an excerpt from Caesar’s Messiah:

“The Gospel of John concludes with a discussion between Simon (Peter) and Jesus. Jesus foresees that Simon will be bound and carried ‘where you do not wish to go.’ Jesus also tells Simon that he will have a martyr’s death, ‘to glorify God.’ In the midst of this discussion, ‘the disciple that Jesus loved,’ clearly meaning the Apostle John, appears. Simon asks Jesus what the fate of John is to be. Jesus replies, ‘It is my will that he remain.’ The passage then points out that John ‘is the disciple who is bearing witness to these things, and who has written these things,’ referring to the Gospel of John itself.

Below is the entire passage. Notice how the author goes to great lengths to avoid calling the Apostles by their real names, Simon and John.

‘Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you girded yourself and walked where you would; but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish to go.’
(This he said to show by what death he was to glorify God.) And after this he said to him, ‘Follow me.’
Peter turned and saw following them the disciple whom Jesus loved, who had lain close to his breast at the supper and had said, ‘Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?’
When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, ‘Lord, what about this man?’
Jesus said to him, ‘If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you? Follow me!’
The saying spread abroad among the brethren that this disciple was not to die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he was not to die, but, ‘If it is my will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?’
This is the disciple who is bearing witness to these things, and who has written these things; and we know that his testimony is true. 

John 21:18–24

This passage, which is the conclusion to Jesus’ ministry, is exactly parallel to Titus’ judgments concerning the rebel leaders Simon and John at the conclusion of his campaign through Judea. Thus, at the conclusion of the Gospel above, Jesus tells Simon ‘when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will gird you and carry you where you do not wish to go.’ Jesus tells Simon to ‘follow me’ and that his death will ‘glorify God.’ However, Jesus also states that it is his will that John is to ‘remain.’

At the conclusion of his campaign through Judea, Titus, after capturing ‘Simon,’ girds him in ‘bonds’ and sends him ‘where you do not wish to go,’ this being Rome. During the parade of conquest at Rome, Simon follows, that is, is ‘led’ to a ‘death, to glorify God,’ the god ‘glorified’ being Titus’ father, the diuus Vespasian. However, it is Titus’ will to spare the other leader of the rebellion, John.

Notice that in the following passage, Josephus records Simon’s fate before John’s, just as it occurs in John 21. A seemingly innocuous detail but one that I will show has great significance.

Simon . . . was forced to surrender himself, as we shall relate hereafter; so he was reserved for the triumph, and to be then slain; as was John condemned to perpetual imprisonment. 78

Josephus also records that Jesus’ vision of Simon ‘following’ also comes to pass for the rebel leader Simon.

Simon . . . had then been led in this triumph among the captives; a rope had also been put upon his head, and he had been drawn into a proper place in the forum. 79

In the passage from the Gospel of John above, notice that the author does not call the Apostle John by his name but rather as ‘the disciple whom Jesus loved,’ and as the individual who had said at the Last Supper, ‘Lord, who is it that is going to betray you?’ Later in the chapter the author identifies this disciple with yet another epithet when he states, ‘This is the disciple who testifies of these things, and wrote these things’—even here not referring to John by name but requiring the reader to determine it by knowing the name of the author of the Gospel.

The author’s use of epithets here, instead of simply referring to the disciple as ‘John,’ seems clearly an attempt to keep the parallel conclusion of Jesus’ and Titus’ ‘ministries’ from being too easily seen.80 The author also has Jesus call Simon by his nickname, ‘Peter,’ for the same reason.

The same technique is used throughout the New Testament and Wars of the Jews. To learn the name of an unnamed character, the reader must be able to recall details from another, related passage. In effect, the New Testament is designed as a sort of intelligence test, whose true meaning can be understood only by those possessing sufficient memory, logic, and irreverent humor.

For clarification, I present the following list showing the parallels between the ends of Jesus’ ministry and Titus’ campaign:
1) Characters are named Simon and John
2) Both sets of characters are judged
3) Both sides of the parallel occur at the conclusion of a ‘campaign’
4) Jesus predicts and Titus fulfills Simon going to a martyr’s death after being placed in bonds and taken someplace he does not wish to go
5) In each, John is spared
6) In each, Simon ‘follows’ ”
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This analysis makes everything clear. In order to give their new Christianity a believable history, the Romans stole the positions of authority and the fates of the rebel leaders Simon and John. They made these individuals into Simon and John the disciples of Jesus Christ. The true history shows us that while the Romans did persecute Christians, these were Jewish zealots, not the Roman Christians.

Originally published September 2, 2011
8 Comments
Kathleen Murphy
1/9/2019 01:46:37 pm

Before Roman Christianity were there other documented terms used to describe Jewish people besides "Jewish"?

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Kathleen Murphy
2/3/2021 03:47:42 pm

Yes. Before Titus co-opted Christianity, the Jewish people were called "Christians" in the original, Old Testament sense of the word.

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Margaret Echols
11/28/2019 04:32:09 pm

I've long held the theory that Jesus was representative of some type of movement that was taking place at the time. The 4 gospels read like legal depositions and the Acts reads like a government surveillance report. However, just by dissecting the text itself, I've concluded that the rest of it--particularly the parts involving Saul/Paul, who, apparently after discovering that his sons Titus and Timothy, as well as their mother and grandmother were part of the movement--faked a 'conversion' experience and set about bringing the converts back around and under the control of the existing church, so that he would not have to kill his own family. I also concluded that none of the letters he wrote were actually sent because 1) there were no answer letters, 2) they were all together in one place instead of being in their designated cities, and 3) the people he was supposedly sending them to would have probably asked who he was, as he was NEVER mentioned by their original 13 founders...(also, what he teaches is contradictory to what the Jesus character taught.)
Any way you look at it, it is all fake, and what adult in their right mind has an imaginary friend? Oh but this one is magical and is going to come floating down out of the clouds and levitate them up to him, and he is responsible for all their actions and his imaginary blood absolves them of personal accountability. Real mature, right?

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Judy Weismonger
5/13/2024 11:14:24 pm

And one of the last Discussions by Richard Price on my vision he was endorsing the Roman creation of Jesus because there's just too much evidence now by too many other scholars to deny it. Richard two in some of his statements sneaks around the corner it is also coming to the same conclusion although he is want to openly admit it.

Secondly, What the Romans dead in inventing Jesus was and is standard psychological warfare using syncretism that even Richard talks about frequently used by other religions. However, the Romans used syncretism of local religions embedding Roman mythology among the locals as part of their practice state crafts that the Romans had been using for decades. The idea was and it worked well "how can you rebell Against the group or an individual who worships the same God of the nearly the same God as you?"

Therefore, the idea that Jesus was a new concept Or an Implausible construct to be used by the Romans to pacify the Jews is ridiculous because Romans had been using Religious syncretism Uncaptured and dominated local populations for decades. The Romans were very practiced and this was part of their Normal and diplomatic state craft.





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Isaac Zájara link
8/11/2024 04:36:46 am

In his book Flavio Josefo and his enigmas. El secreto marcano, Isaac Zájara critically analyses the texts of both, the historian Flavius Josephus and Mark the Evangelist, reaching the conclusion that the two pseudo-identities correspond to the same and unique person: Bar-Jesús, Jesus of Nazareth´s biological son; It also concludes that Jesus of Nazareth was condemned in accordance with the Law (trials before Caiaphas and Pilate) and crucified before his son, Mark the Evangelist, gave birth to the aforementioned religion.
In the first Jewish-Roman war (67-73 CE), Flavius Josephus fought alongside Vespasian's Roman legions. Josephus went so far as to write that the messianic prophecies that foreshadowed the first Judeo-Roman war also announced that Vespasian would become Caesar-Messiah. Vespasian understood that Josephus' "prophetic gift" was truly divine. Once he was named Roman emperor in AD 69, Josephus assumed the name [nomen] of Caesar, that is, "Flavius" and became adviser, friend and interpreter of Titus, Vespasian's eldest son, on the occasion of the siege and sack of Jerusalem in 70 CE, culminating in the destruction of its famous Temple.
Until today, the biography of Josephus has been described as "ambiguous": a law-abiding Jew, who believed in the compatibility of Judaism and Greco-Roman philosophy, a binomial known as "Hellenistic Judaism." Until the 19th century, Josephus did not cease to be considered a traitor to his homeland and, therefore, his works should not be studied or translated into Hebrew; in fact, they were banned. Actually, Josephus's critics never understood that he did not commit suicide in the year 67 CE, during the siege of Jotapata; and they understood even less that he immediately accepted the patronage of the Romans.
William Whiston, in his English translation of the works of Josephus, went so far as to –significantly– state that certain works of Josephus were similar in style to the Pauline epistles.
In his work Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus (page 226), Joseph Atwill writes the following:
(…) the authors of the New Testament and Josephus felt free to put in their creations the puzzles and lampoons that "notified" the educated of the true origin of the religion. They did not believe that the masses —the uneducated slaves and peasants for whom Christianity was intended— would understand these puzzles, an assumption that has proven to be correct. However, they certainly wanted the puzzles to be solved eventually. Only then could Titus' greatest achievement —that of transforming himself into "Jesus"— be appreciated. My interpretation of the following passages is that they create a puzzle whose solution shows how the puzzles in the New Testament can be solved. The puzzle itself is quite easy to solve; the only difficult aspect of it is recognizing that the puzzle exists.
In this work (Caesar's Messiah), Joseph Atwill assembled 42 of such puzzles. Isaac Zájara has called Atwill's “puzzles” “enigmas”; and, following in his path, he has managed to solve several thousand of them. In fact, all the paragraphs of each one of Flavius Josephus's books are structured as if they were the pieces of a puzzle; each of these pieces are actually riddles. After guessing these riddles, the reader has to assemble the resulting puzzle; only then, he will have understood the corresponding paragraph in all its significance, that is, beyond the literal meaning of the words and phrases of Josephus. Atwill reached to understand how Josephus structured his texts; despite this, he did not realize that such a procedure constitutes the so-called "Mark´s secret"; in other words, he did not realize that Flavius Josephus = Mark the Evangelist.
In the Rome of the 1st century CE, the undisputed protagonist was Flavius Josephus (Mark the Evangelist), a person of immense socio-political, economic, military, religious, cultural and moral influence; despite such relevance, Mark the Evangelist, using multiple heteronyms, decided to dissolve –like a “sugar cube”– in the “coffee cup” of history, until he managed to go completely unnoticed; "Flavius Josephus" is just one of the many heteronyms of him.
Flavius Josephus (Mark the Evangelist) is –according to Zájara– the most intelligent and capable person who has ever trodden the earth, as Josephus himself suggests in his Autobiography (§ 2.9), which reads as follows:
(...) I made mighty proficiency in the improvements of my learning; and appeared to have both a great memory, and understanding. Moreover, when I was a child, and about fourteen years of age, I was commended by all for the love I had to learning; on which account the High Priests, and principal men of the city came then frequently to me together, in order to know my opinion about the accurate understanding of points of the Law.

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Michael Kamleiter
10/20/2025 06:49:11 pm

I think you got the wrong Caesar. The Man to look at is Hadrian and the critical time is 117 AD, the year when the Jewish Diaspora almost caused the empire's disintegration. So Paulus and Marcion of Sinope started an antisemitic propaganda campaign, trying in word and letter to infiltrate and pacify the Jewish diaspora, probably state sponsored by the same man who as pontifex maximus decreed circumcision to be illegal wholesale (unlike the sumptuous laws of the Flavians), decreed the religion of Judaism to be illegal and smothered Bar Kokhba's uprising in a holocaust. Later this propaganda campaign morphed into a new religion, the same religion that has carried on antisemitism through the millennia. My background is Roman law and archaeology.

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Ye Ye
1/20/2026 09:11:23 pm

Dear Sir,
First, I wish to express my deepest gratitude for your work. Caesar's Messiah stands as one of the finest books I have ever encountered on the history of Christianity.
As a Muslim, I hold the view that the Romans appropriated the true message of Jesus—perhaps something akin to what is reflected in the Dead Sea Scrolls—and inverted it completely, transforming his teachings into a pacifist, "turn-the-other-cheek" religion wielded as a political instrument to subdue the Jewish nation. I also note that they termed their composition the "Evangelion," deliberately echoing the Injeel (Gospel) that was divinely revealed to Jesus. Thus, during Jesus' time, there existed two Injeels: the original from God, and the Roman-crafted version which is the 4 gosples.
Once again, thank you. I eagerly anticipate your future contributions.

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raymond l towne link
6/27/2026 06:20:29 pm

Whither NT studies in Century XXI? Text recover largely having been done, archaeological scouring largely complete, the spectre of mere commentaries upon earlier commentaries looming large, what remains to be done? MacDonald's intertextual on Mark and Homer (2000) leads the way beyond the myopia afflicting NT AND classical studies. Only now, it seems, with NT studies freed from ecclesial loyalties, and the classics freely available online, can a reconstruction, and re-living, of the First and Second Century Mediterranean Mind, come into being. Imagine the bitter disappointment of those who admired Philo's synthesis of Israel's God and Plato's One, when Whatever governs Fate allowed the Temple to be destroyed by mere soldiers, Romans though they be! Knowing their classical traditions to be historical romances, with intertextual minds they generated satire, bitter satire -- a true Roman genre. Now we can ask loudly, more confidently, "what genre are the Gospels"? Genre is all, ripeness is all. And beyond all this, once the basic intertextual analyses are finished and complete by mid-Century XXI, like the Romans, like the Jews, like the Gentiles, how will we find our God among the ruins?

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